Todays 30 year auction maybe not such a big deal...

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Todays 30 year auction maybe not such a big deal...

Postby jakedeez » Thu May 07, 2009 4:40 pm

I think that there is too much hype going on about the large tail in the 30 year auction today. I mean, it was a big tail, really a huge tail, but I mean, with the stress test, employment numbers, I mean, I don't think the chatter about how the government is going to have trouble keeping down rates makes any sense at all... Thoughts?
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Re: Todays 30 year auction maybe not such a big deal...

Postby michael » Thu May 07, 2009 4:46 pm

I still think it all hinges on what happens to quant easing policy. Fed is a buyer on Monday, so that will be the day for them to send a signal to the market if they care to defend.

That said, 4.25%+ (we'll be at 5% quickly at this rate of decomposition) is a value proposition as a perpetual put on an equity portfolio, considering the environment.
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Re: Todays 30 year auction maybe not such a big deal...

Postby Martinghoul » Fri May 08, 2009 4:25 am

My view is that bonds are broken... All the newsflow is negative bonds, so I expect the punishment to continue. NOB spread, btw, is at historical highs, I think.
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Re: Todays 30 year auction maybe not such a big deal...

Postby wellsd » Fri May 08, 2009 10:55 am

I actually think it IS a big deal simply because of the importance of these technical levels. Given the way sentiment moves the long end of the curve, investors sitting on bonds they bought yielding in the low 3s will panic pretty quickly. This thing could get away from Helicopter Ben, especially since they have shown no desire yet to defend rates in the long end. The $300 billion of (current) firepower is NOT enough to pick a fight with this market.

9 bps tail, and then the secondary market blasted right through that tail. Wow.
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Re: Todays 30 year auction maybe not such a big deal...

Postby michael » Fri May 08, 2009 11:00 am

Not until the Fed shows up at buys 20B on an open market op am I convinced that long bonds are a buy. I've capitulated and changed sentiment. I'll wait until after to get bullish.
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